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Old 10-22-2015, 12:18 PM
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Directional Rims/Wheels

Looking at getting some rims at the end of the year. Anyone have any recommendations to directional rims/wheels?

I'm seeing... Vossen CVT. Price is right ~500 per wheel, but they are what, 27 lbs, so heavier than stock in 19" and 20" configs. They have good commercials, but heavier is probably not so awesome.

Vossen VPS 304 look even better, forged, but... 2000 per wheel. So maybe 9k with wheels and TPMS, can't get that by the wife. 15 spoke is so pretty though.

Avant Garde has the M621, "rotary forged" so not superforged but... ~23 lbs, so lighter than Vossen CVT & OEM, around the same price. AG also has their forged F line of directionals, again 1k+ per wheel so kind of a bit over the top price-wise for the wife. Are these guys good? Seems like the name brands don't do directionals, ie BBS, Volk, OZ, etc. Not as pretty as Vossen so the only reason I would do this is for the weight reduction, assuming they don't have problems with crumbling into mush on the road.

Niche has a few directionals, fairly cheap, the surge and invert models. ~250 per wheel. Cheap for a reason? Invert is ugly, at any rate.

Any other reputable brands I'm not aware of that have directional wheels? Trying to keep it sub-25 lbs, 19"/20". I love the optical illusion effect of directionals... I've seen them a handful of times in my life, and stared HARD for the five seconds I could see the spins without the mechanical spins like those Escalades. Any brand have better optics than others? Or does it all end up looking the same.

Googling for this is very difficult. I thought directionals would be way more popular and easy to find, but you really have to dig to find anything at all.

I did see that supposedly the physics behind the directionals also causes airflow to go outward from the car when the wheel is oriented on the correct side, cooling rotors/brakes. Seems like for engineering purposes they would be more prevalent given this benefit, unless there's a negative I'm not aware of.

SO... who else likes directionals, and if so, how and where did you find yours?
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i couldve sworn AG made more directional models than just the one you mentioned ??

niche is cheap cuz theyre more or less a vossen knockoff- lol let that sink in.
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My megathread based on internet findings. Having trouble choosing out of the pile.

1. Blaque Diamond BD-1, BD03

The BD-3 is the only one with 19 inch wheels. BD-1 looks better. No construction method advertised. Perhaps just normal cast? About 1400 for the set of 4.

2. American Racing AR900

800 bucks for the 4. I can even get these on Amazon. Only 17, 18, and 20. So AR is a legit wheel, but anything about how these are made that are less legit than legit?

3. Dub Chedda S128

Only 22 and 24, so too big I think. Looks good though, WTB 19 plz. But again, no aluminum construction specs.

4. Lexani Artemis

22 min, too big. 2000 for the set of 4. No construction method advertised.

5. Lexani CCS-7, CCS-15

17, 18, 20. Again no info about how these are built. 300-400 per wheel.

6. Roderick RW4

They got me at the 19 x 8.5, so size is right at least. But so much rod, so much dick. No info except that they exist in terms of forging, aluminum grade, etc.
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7. Rotiform IND-T

Cast 1-piece? Is that good, or is that the lowest of the low construction method? I like that you can basically order via part number build-out for options.

Is Rotiform legit? Price is good. ~250 per wheel. Any reason to not do this?

8. Stance SF01

OMG rotary forged take all my money! Lulz. I do not like that it is straight spokes with directional spokes coming out the straight ones. Even/normal directionals would be better. Anything about this make it extra special? Rotary forged ftw?

9. Varro VD15

Ah the venereals. I think the rep said they were 35 lbs each. Is there a reason that I dont know of to get tank wheels? Would these be stronger from the weight? They look good, at least. ~350/wheel.
10. Verde V25 Quantum

Nothing about construction method.

11. Vossen CVT

Arguably the best marketing on the internet. Videos all look pimp. Also, the most hate on the internet.

So the viral marketing paired with this guys flame site make me nervous. Any reason to shell out 500 per wheel? I mean they do look good. Is there anything about these that make them more special than anything else in the universe?

12. Vossen VPS 304

The forged version, spokier, 2k per wheel. Not happening, price-wise.

13. Niche Surge M114 and M112

Cast monoblock is ok? Because 200 per wheel is ok for sure. Jersey said these are imitation Vossens and laughed. Im trying to educate myself as to why that is funny.

14. BBS CX-R

So these are interesting in that its two colors of directionals going in opposite directions. So going forward, you will see the silver moving forward and the back perhaps moving backward? Double illusionary? Its too bad a video would not suffice videos capture frames at what, 24/30 fps, so you would see an electronic illusion of an optical illusion, only way to buy these is to see them in real life first, which would never happen.

So concludes my directional megathread. Perhaps vendors could add weights to this list 19 x 8.5, or 20 x 9 or 8.5. Trying to figure out a few things. What construction method is worth paying for, vs marketing. How dicey would going Roderick vs BBS/AR be. Rotiforms are appealing but know nothing about them. These are all the directionals I could find. Weight, construction method, value, reputation why do one over another? /End of buying signal.
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15. Avant Garde M621

Rotary forged again. Best ever?

Many choices, someone help me pick a wheel!
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from what it looks like none of these wheels are truly forged wheels.

the BBS wheels, from what the website shows, look to not be made in our PCD.

also dont fall for the hype they try to sell people on "rotary forged, flow forged, semi- forged, super duper sorta forged" theyre infamous for trying to upsell, simply put, cast wheels.


also on #13, vossen is already a ****-poor company. now imagine making replicas of that. thats all lol.

honestly, if you look on the many forums that share our same pcd, my350, 370, g37 etc, you will find many good deals on true high end wheels- many with tires. give them a look man and GL with your search. wheelflip and stanceworks may also yield good results.
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Thanks JerseyT. Any directionals that meet quality standards, though? I like the directional illusion on spinning wheels. But as I said, this is just about as much as I could find. I don't like that "true high end wheel" companies don't make these, and I'm left to sift through cast wheel variations that aren't up to par. Any secrets out there?
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Not sure about this brand, weights or anything but their directional.

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Jersey...

Would these "work" on a 2006 G35X:

http://rupromenergo.ru/forums/19-inch...-extremes.html

19x8.5 and 19x9.5.

I assume wider wheels won't harm my X as long as the OD is the same.

Sorry to bother, but you happen to seem like you have a lot of expertise, I appreciate your response to my thread, hence looking for "real" wheels in the classifieds.

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from what it looks like none of these wheels are truly forged wheels.

the BBS wheels, from what the website shows, look to not be made in our PCD.

also dont fall for the hype they try to sell people on "rotary forged, flow forged, semi- forged, super duper sorta forged" theyre infamous for trying to upsell, simply put, cast wheels.


also on #13, vossen is already a ****-poor company. now imagine making replicas of that. thats all lol.

honestly, if you look on the many forums that share our same pcd, my350, 370, g37 etc, you will find many good deals on true high end wheels- many with tires. give them a look man and GL with your search. wheelflip and stanceworks may also yield good results.
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Jersey...

Would these "work" on a 2006 G35X:

http://rupromenergo.ru/forums/19-inch...-extremes.html

19x8.5 and 19x9.5.

I assume wider wheels won't harm my X as long as the OD is the same.

Sorry to bother, but you happen to seem like you have a lot of expertise, I appreciate your response to my thread, hence looking for "real" wheels in the classifieds.

Thanks!
theyd work for sure and rest assured, Kevin is a great guy
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I'd keep in mind that with the wider diameter the weights between the two axles won't be the same aka causing the rears to strain more....I know it's probably only a matter of
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I'd keep in mind that with the wider diameter the weights between the two axles won't be the same aka causing the rears to strain more....I know it's probably only a matter of
Matter of... time until my car explodes??? Don't leave me hanging!

How would the rear strain more, more grip so more stress on something or another? VDC? Wheel bearing? LOL.
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Matter of... time until my car explodes??? Don't leave me hanging!

How would the rear strain more, more grip so more stress on something or another? VDC? Wheel bearing? LOL.
I would have thought the rears strain more when more power is sent to them anyway? Like on hard pulls etc...
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Ya so the rest of my comment didn't even post...not sure why.
As I was saying, it's probably only a matter of < 5lbs so not too much of any issue but coming from Audi I know it's a common concern not to mess with the Quattro dynamic. Seeing as Audi is AWD all of the time, Infiniti X doesn't use the same ratio as the rears get the majority of the power
All I'm saying is that the car, as an AWD, is set up a certain way to keep each axle and diffs balanced. It probably won't cause anything but slight increase in tire/bushing/bearing wear.

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